Yes. An excellent interview. The take home for readers should revolve (pardon the pun) around the intentional inefficiency and redundancy of the *Circuit Court* system. It reminds me of the old joke about how many Pollacks does it take to screw in a light bulb.
Aside from the fact that the LA school "mandate" was operating under Color of Law See: 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law
Aside from the excellent work being done at HFDF on the legal front I think it's worth noting that Leslie and the folks at HFDF have been pointing out the various frauds of the entire Covid Con from day one and have been doing so in a foundational way. In short they have been correct on just about all aspects of this massive racketeering operation.
I will also say that Leslie was warning about and knew what was coming in Jan-Feb 2020. This was made possible from her historical and contextual understanding of the situation that came from being immersed in these issues for two decades.
Why I bring this up is that it is important to understand the differences in analysis in the how's, what's, where's, when's of the Covid-19 Operation between the likes of those who have been positioned at the forefront of the "health freedom movement" versus someone like Leslie (she is not the only one).
Those such as Cole, Kory, Malone, Kirsch, Bhattacharya, Kulldorff, Ioannidis, Rose and the rest of the "acceptable sceptics" have not only been wrong about much and were wrong right from the start, but supported and still support most of the foundational lies of the scamdemic.
Why this is important is to not only ask why and how it was and is that these unknown entities were foisted upon us as leaders of the "health freedom movement" but also to look to those who saw the big picture right from the get-go.
A few articles from HFDF which are very much worth reading:
I'm not going to address your entire list of acceptable skeptics, but let's consider Kirsch. Like me, he's an engineer by training and a wealthy Silicon Valley entrepreneur. He would have to be completely insane to alienate most of his friends and probably half of his family, spend huge sums of his own money, just to help the CDC and Big Pharma control the Overton window. It's far more likely that he was fed the viral contagion myth from birth (just like the rest of us). I've been skeptical of vaccines for 40 years, but it wasn't until the covid era that my eyes opened to the full size and scope of this scientific fraud. If Kirsch has made errors, they're far more likely to be rooted in the sea of lies that we've all been fed than any ill intent. As Michael Yon is so fond of saying, "the only cult you can't see is the one you're in". I don't think Steve has fully deprogrammed himself from the lies of the medical cult so naturally he's going to support some of its foundations, but the guy has moved the needle in the direction of truth and for that I say well done and keep up the good work. I would offer the same analysis for most of your list. Steve was lucky to be an engineer. He didn't have another 20 years of intense study of the lies programmed into his brain like many of the others. That just isn't something where you break free overnight.
Yes, I think we need to keep perspective and acknowledge those who have spent a lot of time and effort exposing the lies even if they are not 100% right or on ball all the time. They have made a change.
For the benefit of those who may have missed this gem: “-for context, 120 years ago the eugenics beliefs were a fashionable open attitude in the society, reflected in laws and practices. Now it is just as cherished by the power elites but they prefer to camouflage it in “equity-diversity-sustainability” slogans.”
Sorry, my point is whenever you hear ppl use this word, it should alert you, along w several others. Also their language they will use in relation to you. OR I should say, people like me.
Wow, talk about a fundamental right, that’s one right there- the right to not be killed. This can be extended to fight the upcoming depredations of the warfare state through the moves towards reinstating the military draft. If they can’t kill you one way they will try another, all these things are just variations on the basic concept.
Not to mention this now includes women!!! Without a public discussion?
First they convinced mothers to “go to work” because “women’s lib” Putting infants and preschool age children in the hands of caretakers…, then “government schools” for propaganda. And Birth control paved the way.
Now we just kill the female childbearing population by injecting them, feeding them, poisonous food, spraying the poison in the air, and if nothing else sending them to war.
Did anyone notice the super recent Ukrainian conscription of women? …like they happened at virtually the same moment. With a half million or more young male Ukrainian war casualties, they either need to add women or just want to write them off to the same fate.
We may be missing the point of a draft. Yes they want to dispose of us by any means which includes cannon fodder but when you enter the military you get every kind of shot there is. It may be a ruse just to get people sterilized through vaccination. They did it in India and Africa
We have no idea right now, about the sterility of the shots. Until people try to have a baby. I've been thinking about it. I believe affecting the reproductive organs was in the top 5 of adverse effects, Pfizer own data.
Our legal classes are surrogate to the International BAR Association, and spew their 'legal' bamboozles all over the place. They do this whilst failing to prosecute the most egregious and well documented cases of Corporate Fraud, Racketeering, and international Terrorism.
Meanwhile, nobody asks how imposing a fine is going to stop an epidemic. What if EVERYONE pays the fine, & nobody gets the "vaccine" (real or not)? IMHO, Jacobson was the SCOTUS' inside joke. Like they already knew Germ Theory was fraud, but saw how useful it was for corraling the poor, so long as the rich got to opt out.
Leslie Manookian is a brilliant fighter and a great explainer. Hers was one of the first voices I heard as the Covidian crud crammed itself down everyone’s throats.
We have been here before. After Scott Peterson murdered his pregnant wife days before she was due for delivery, the state of California upgraded the legal penalty from life in prison to execution by lethal injection on the grounds that he had taken two lives.. If, instead, Lacy Peterson had gotten up early, driven to an abortion clinic, and terminated her pregnancy before her husband killed her, he could only be convicted of a single murder and be sentenced to a lesser sentence, life imprisonment.
In essence, the state of California wanted it both ways. Whether a life was deemed a life depended on who was doing the killing. As egregious as that was, Texas has done them one better. In a lawsuit that is now winding its way through the courts, the state of Texas is claiming that the Bill of Rights is not legally binding within their borders. According to the state's lawyers, these are just helpful suggestions, and nothing more.
Down and down we go, where we stop? Nobody knows... but unless we put a stop to this sort of nonsense - and we do it 'toute suite' - we are witnessing the end of civilization as we know it.
We already there, you just don't know enough to know it. If people are still thinking in terms of left/right, they are NOT AWAKE.
The entire Federal Gov is corrupted. The Puppet Masters have orchestrated every single thing. The dumbing down of society, ushering in abstract concept teaching and pushing the 3 R's to the back burner. Couple that along with CDC's recommended shot list. All this kicked in after GenX. Look around you, I see it every day. There are black people who believe that white ppl invented slavery, bc that's what they were indoctrinated to believe. Abstract=indoctrination. The ''We All'' theory is my latest, they teach people who are in these fields to push the concept of We All:
Are on the spectrum.
Have trauma.
The other day someone wrote, ' We all have mental illness!' in a space that is supposed to be carthotic for me. No!
I dove right in, said, Absolutely not. Then I wrote that was a woke theory that was being sold to psych fields who then sell it to their clients..
Someone followed my comment up with directing me to define woke.. And when did I suppose that this all got going.
I wrote a brief response, relaying that I would not be defining 'woke'. I was going to give a time range then I decided to look at his page..
29 yrs old. I declined to answer period..
The word ruminate has been turned into a negative word by the psych fields. As far I can tell, it happened around 25 years or so ago.
I digress.
My point is that everything that diverts the attention of y'all, is meant to do that, ALL planned.
There only one reason to dumb a society down, to control people, make them pliable. Tell them what to think, instead of teaching them how to think. Reading and comprehension is everything.
Other Orchestrations:
The value of the dollar 👇
I watched an interview and this person said that Mexico, Argentina, S. America are considering joining, Brexit.
This same person also put the following idea out.
That The Puppet Masters are right now, trying to figure out how to own the trees on land in South America to start with..
Carbon credits.
This got me thinking, what if this and the other resources are part of the reason why the border has been wide open and everyone encouraged to come?
Millions and millions of illegals. Men dressing as women (they illegally changed Title 9, all title require a Q&A time)
The race non existent issues that popped in 2014.
The way they let these alt-lefts change definitions willy nilly was to normalize it for people.
They wanted to be able to change laws already written by going in and changing the definition of a word or phrase inside said law. Ex, Gun dealer, they went and changed what constitutes a gun dealer.
✊🇺🇲🇨🇦🇬🇧🇦🇺🇨🇮
These countries are facing the same issues as us.
I don't know if Trump is a savior or a reverse type Trojan horse.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE 1K or so. They are the Puppet Masters, no allegiance to any country.
They will break people , they already have been doing it for years.
Learned of this from an Institute for Justice communication. I believe this started in one of the Texas counties, and the case has been working its way upward through appeals.
Leslie, well done, perseverance pays off. Add being well prepared with hard work and bingo! Sasha, thanks for the post, you have articulating talent, along with artistic talent! WOW.
Congratulations, Leslie and HFDF! 👏👏👏
Sasha, thank you for setting this up to help us understand the nuances of this significant case.
I say the same!
Yes. An excellent interview. The take home for readers should revolve (pardon the pun) around the intentional inefficiency and redundancy of the *Circuit Court* system. It reminds me of the old joke about how many Pollacks does it take to screw in a light bulb.
Aside from the fact that the LA school "mandate" was operating under Color of Law See: 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242
Also: 18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
Mandates are not laws --- at all. >>> Mandates Are Not Laws 2.0 >>> By Anna Von Reitz
http://annavonreitz.com/mandatesarenotlaws2.pdf
THEY did not hear in the back.
Mandates are NOT LAWS.
Seems the microphone is turned off...
Hello Paul,
Yes, I have noticed that oh since a our 2020.
🙄
How are you?
I can chime in and agree. Excellent work! Leveraging small victories to dismantle the evil structure.
Thank you, Leslie and Sasha!
Aside from the excellent work being done at HFDF on the legal front I think it's worth noting that Leslie and the folks at HFDF have been pointing out the various frauds of the entire Covid Con from day one and have been doing so in a foundational way. In short they have been correct on just about all aspects of this massive racketeering operation.
I will also say that Leslie was warning about and knew what was coming in Jan-Feb 2020. This was made possible from her historical and contextual understanding of the situation that came from being immersed in these issues for two decades.
Why I bring this up is that it is important to understand the differences in analysis in the how's, what's, where's, when's of the Covid-19 Operation between the likes of those who have been positioned at the forefront of the "health freedom movement" versus someone like Leslie (she is not the only one).
Those such as Cole, Kory, Malone, Kirsch, Bhattacharya, Kulldorff, Ioannidis, Rose and the rest of the "acceptable sceptics" have not only been wrong about much and were wrong right from the start, but supported and still support most of the foundational lies of the scamdemic.
Why this is important is to not only ask why and how it was and is that these unknown entities were foisted upon us as leaders of the "health freedom movement" but also to look to those who saw the big picture right from the get-go.
A few articles from HFDF which are very much worth reading:
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/pharmas-broken-business-model-part-one/
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/lab-leak-an-elaborate-misdirection/
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/do-you-know-whats-in-a-vaccine/
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/the-story-of-pfizer-inc-a-case-study-in-pharmaceutical-empire-and-corporate-corruption/
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/the-future-of-health-summit-blowing-up-the-world-for-big-pharma/
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/new-york-city-spring-2020-investigating-the-covid-epicenter/
https://healthfreedomdefense.org/italy-2020-inside-covids-ground-zero-was-there-really-a-pandemic/
I'm not going to address your entire list of acceptable skeptics, but let's consider Kirsch. Like me, he's an engineer by training and a wealthy Silicon Valley entrepreneur. He would have to be completely insane to alienate most of his friends and probably half of his family, spend huge sums of his own money, just to help the CDC and Big Pharma control the Overton window. It's far more likely that he was fed the viral contagion myth from birth (just like the rest of us). I've been skeptical of vaccines for 40 years, but it wasn't until the covid era that my eyes opened to the full size and scope of this scientific fraud. If Kirsch has made errors, they're far more likely to be rooted in the sea of lies that we've all been fed than any ill intent. As Michael Yon is so fond of saying, "the only cult you can't see is the one you're in". I don't think Steve has fully deprogrammed himself from the lies of the medical cult so naturally he's going to support some of its foundations, but the guy has moved the needle in the direction of truth and for that I say well done and keep up the good work. I would offer the same analysis for most of your list. Steve was lucky to be an engineer. He didn't have another 20 years of intense study of the lies programmed into his brain like many of the others. That just isn't something where you break free overnight.
Yes, I think we need to keep perspective and acknowledge those who have spent a lot of time and effort exposing the lies even if they are not 100% right or on ball all the time. They have made a change.
What has Dr. Rose been wrong about?
Thanks Sasha. Your energy, persistence and thirst for truth are truly admirable.
100% JAS
We are all stakeholders, and we should drive the stakes right into the heart of the transnational deep state.
WHO’s Global “Health” Police State Can Be Stopped: Top Int’l Law Expert
Originally published on New America by Alex Newman June 11, 2024
https://francisaboyle.substack.com/p/whos-global-health-police-state-can
For the benefit of those who may have missed this gem: “-for context, 120 years ago the eugenics beliefs were a fashionable open attitude in the society, reflected in laws and practices. Now it is just as cherished by the power elites but they prefer to camouflage it in “equity-diversity-sustainability” slogans.”
Non-essential people is the new term for 'useless eaters' or 'life unworthy of life'.
Sorry, my point is whenever you hear ppl use this word, it should alert you, along w several others. Also their language they will use in relation to you. OR I should say, people like me.
That’s referred to as DEI… or better said, DIE.
The idea of equity sounds nice, but it can be obtained..
Wow, talk about a fundamental right, that’s one right there- the right to not be killed. This can be extended to fight the upcoming depredations of the warfare state through the moves towards reinstating the military draft. If they can’t kill you one way they will try another, all these things are just variations on the basic concept.
Not to mention this now includes women!!! Without a public discussion?
First they convinced mothers to “go to work” because “women’s lib” Putting infants and preschool age children in the hands of caretakers…, then “government schools” for propaganda. And Birth control paved the way.
Now we just kill the female childbearing population by injecting them, feeding them, poisonous food, spraying the poison in the air, and if nothing else sending them to war.
Did anyone notice the super recent Ukrainian conscription of women? …like they happened at virtually the same moment. With a half million or more young male Ukrainian war casualties, they either need to add women or just want to write them off to the same fate.
We may be missing the point of a draft. Yes they want to dispose of us by any means which includes cannon fodder but when you enter the military you get every kind of shot there is. It may be a ruse just to get people sterilized through vaccination. They did it in India and Africa
We have no idea right now, about the sterility of the shots. Until people try to have a baby. I've been thinking about it. I believe affecting the reproductive organs was in the top 5 of adverse effects, Pfizer own data.
Six ways groom Sunday says Chucky
I'm glad about this but lawyers aren't addressing the real gambit.
Jacobson, only stated that a fine was the punishment.
Jacobson did not allow for being restricted from work or school (and society).
Since when did Jacobson allow for this and why did lawyers not dispute that it should just be a fine?
Even if they had a shot that was safe and effective..... if Jacobson applied, they can only do a fine!
Hello Rob (c137): Correct. The Jacobson v Massachusetts case as limited to a "fine" has been pointed out hundreds of times. Page 6 is quite germane to the (former) issues at hand. >>> https://bailiwicknewsarchives.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/1905-jacobson-v.-mass.pdf
Our legal classes are surrogate to the International BAR Association, and spew their 'legal' bamboozles all over the place. They do this whilst failing to prosecute the most egregious and well documented cases of Corporate Fraud, Racketeering, and international Terrorism.
It's ludicrous...
Meanwhile, nobody asks how imposing a fine is going to stop an epidemic. What if EVERYONE pays the fine, & nobody gets the "vaccine" (real or not)? IMHO, Jacobson was the SCOTUS' inside joke. Like they already knew Germ Theory was fraud, but saw how useful it was for corraling the poor, so long as the rich got to opt out.
In my opinion, the Supreme Court system is a stinking bad joke. All civilians standing before Federal courts are automatically considered "incompetent" to represent themselves at the bar. You should hire an attorney. It says so right on the label. >>> https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/eoir/legacy/2014/08/15/Defining_and_Assessing_Competency_to_Stand_Trial.pdf
The *attorney* bamboozle has been in place for hundreds of years, and our current Commander in Chief wouldn't stand a chance in Hell...
Let’s send him to Hell to test that theory!!
I'm pretty sure Mr Biden already has the address...
Correct Rob. Leslie clearly makes this point in the interview with Sasha.
Should detention of 2,000 people be considered kidnapping?
Love the watercolor and adore the politics!
Leslie Manookian is a brilliant fighter and a great explainer. Hers was one of the first voices I heard as the Covidian crud crammed itself down everyone’s throats.
Well worth listening to the whole enchilada. Excellent and very encouraging information.
We have been here before. After Scott Peterson murdered his pregnant wife days before she was due for delivery, the state of California upgraded the legal penalty from life in prison to execution by lethal injection on the grounds that he had taken two lives.. If, instead, Lacy Peterson had gotten up early, driven to an abortion clinic, and terminated her pregnancy before her husband killed her, he could only be convicted of a single murder and be sentenced to a lesser sentence, life imprisonment.
In essence, the state of California wanted it both ways. Whether a life was deemed a life depended on who was doing the killing. As egregious as that was, Texas has done them one better. In a lawsuit that is now winding its way through the courts, the state of Texas is claiming that the Bill of Rights is not legally binding within their borders. According to the state's lawyers, these are just helpful suggestions, and nothing more.
Down and down we go, where we stop? Nobody knows... but unless we put a stop to this sort of nonsense - and we do it 'toute suite' - we are witnessing the end of civilization as we know it.
Keeping the laws contradictory is great business for attorneys.
America as we knew it is done.
We already there, you just don't know enough to know it. If people are still thinking in terms of left/right, they are NOT AWAKE.
The entire Federal Gov is corrupted. The Puppet Masters have orchestrated every single thing. The dumbing down of society, ushering in abstract concept teaching and pushing the 3 R's to the back burner. Couple that along with CDC's recommended shot list. All this kicked in after GenX. Look around you, I see it every day. There are black people who believe that white ppl invented slavery, bc that's what they were indoctrinated to believe. Abstract=indoctrination. The ''We All'' theory is my latest, they teach people who are in these fields to push the concept of We All:
Are on the spectrum.
Have trauma.
The other day someone wrote, ' We all have mental illness!' in a space that is supposed to be carthotic for me. No!
I dove right in, said, Absolutely not. Then I wrote that was a woke theory that was being sold to psych fields who then sell it to their clients..
Someone followed my comment up with directing me to define woke.. And when did I suppose that this all got going.
I wrote a brief response, relaying that I would not be defining 'woke'. I was going to give a time range then I decided to look at his page..
29 yrs old. I declined to answer period..
The word ruminate has been turned into a negative word by the psych fields. As far I can tell, it happened around 25 years or so ago.
I digress.
My point is that everything that diverts the attention of y'all, is meant to do that, ALL planned.
There only one reason to dumb a society down, to control people, make them pliable. Tell them what to think, instead of teaching them how to think. Reading and comprehension is everything.
Other Orchestrations:
The value of the dollar 👇
I watched an interview and this person said that Mexico, Argentina, S. America are considering joining, Brexit.
This same person also put the following idea out.
That The Puppet Masters are right now, trying to figure out how to own the trees on land in South America to start with..
Carbon credits.
This got me thinking, what if this and the other resources are part of the reason why the border has been wide open and everyone encouraged to come?
Millions and millions of illegals. Men dressing as women (they illegally changed Title 9, all title require a Q&A time)
The race non existent issues that popped in 2014.
The way they let these alt-lefts change definitions willy nilly was to normalize it for people.
They wanted to be able to change laws already written by going in and changing the definition of a word or phrase inside said law. Ex, Gun dealer, they went and changed what constitutes a gun dealer.
✊🇺🇲🇨🇦🇬🇧🇦🇺🇨🇮
These countries are facing the same issues as us.
I don't know if Trump is a savior or a reverse type Trojan horse.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE 1K or so. They are the Puppet Masters, no allegiance to any country.
They will break people , they already have been doing it for years.
CHAOS IS THEIR GAME
Look around.
I will be quiet now.
WOW!!! What????
Where is AG Ken Paxton on this? Hard to believe he would support.
Rise and resist Texans!!!!
I read that Texas had a clause put into the papers when they joined the US. It said they could leave if and when they wanted.
I do not know if this is true.
Learned of this from an Institute for Justice communication. I believe this started in one of the Texas counties, and the case has been working its way upward through appeals.
THIS. IS. JUST. INCREDIBLE. Especially for someone listening and reading this from Europe (a Hungarian living in CH).
The swamp, because of their malevolence, will always fall into its own trap! Many should listen to this or at least read your summary.
Thank you very much for doing this and sharing this!
I wish this becomes the first banana peel towards the Al-Capone moment of the Swamp!
Leslie, well done, perseverance pays off. Add being well prepared with hard work and bingo! Sasha, thanks for the post, you have articulating talent, along with artistic talent! WOW.
Just finished watching the interview. Thanks for the insight and details.
Very interesting. Thanks for all the hard work!