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Kemper Williams's avatar

Bobby Jr is gaining traction despite the ‘anti-vaxxer’ label. So they’re moving on to the racist label. Next will be misogyny, then he hates birds, etc

Allen's avatar

Despite that RFK is absolutely WRONG on 'lab leak', provides zero evidence on this and refuses to look at the evidence that illustrates beyond a shadow of a doubt what happened in Spring 2020.

He is absolutely WRONG with his assertion this was a "mismanaged pandemic" as there was no pandemic- it was mass murder via hospital protocols to give the appearance of some deadly contagion.

All well documented- inexcusable and dishonorable to those who were murdered that the cover story of some virus is being pimped by RFK and others.

Kenneth J Hinnenkamp's avatar

All cause mortality was increased by the hospital treatments and patient isolation. Also by the lockdowns and suicides. Incentives paid for COVID related hospitalizations, treatments and deaths made hospital administrators choose coding for COVID.

Tink's avatar

He is way smarter than all of us. He knows all we have managed to suss out and piece together. He is playing to a bigger crowd, and needs to spoon feed them, and not give them more than they can handle.

Allen's avatar

Sounds like the same canards rolled out during the Obama years- 11th dimensional chess etc.

Also sounds like noblesse oblige. If he was so smart how come he thought Tuscany was in Northern Italy?

Tink's avatar

I never fell for Obama. I thought he was a bought and paid for empty suit, who talked pretty.

Mystic William's avatar

He didn’t even talk pretty. He was boring. He made the odd good quip. But his speeches, other than the ‘Yes we can’ speech, were flat and lifeless. He also said ‘Marine Corps’ pronouncing it ‘corpse’.

Letsrock's avatar

When I heard his middle name it told me all I needed to know.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Obama? You must be referring to Barry Soetoro - A registered student at Columbia University (New York) originally from Kenya.

Letsrock's avatar

He has a lot of skeletons. Very disturbing. Sister Kerry is a nightmare.

Allen's avatar

I don't care about any of those things. I don't care about any of the personalities and have no interest in RFK nor any animosity towards him.

Just show me the evidence for the claims and that has not been done for three years now. That tells me there is none.

It's just amazing how little is required to get people chasing their tails.

Letsrock's avatar

Just came across a very apropos meme, I paraphrase...we don't need a newbie in there right now under the circumstances but someone w experience. I have no animosity towards RFK either. There are just things about him that are questionable to me.

I care about character. You really must have due diligence today bc there are so many lies out there. Most ppl haven't a clue. But when you've been following someone for a long time you can actually see their history.

I followed your little tete a tete today. I found it all interesting. Probably a little too technical for me but I basically understood. I was glad that it finally ended peaceably. The bottom line is don't get the shot and lock all the bastards up!

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Allen's avatar

Sounds like Charlie Brown approaching Lucy and the football yet again.

Old tropes die hard.

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SaHiB's avatar

That's hyperbolic nonsense; why do you persist? I don't know what my ACE2 coding variant types are, and I do have asthma, but the original covid strain (yes, it existed, and I presume it was a virus rather than a mycoplasma, fungus, aerial protein toxin, or some such) could have choked me to death. I last entered an actual hospital about six years ago to visit a patient, though had a cataract removed in a clinic immediately adjacent to said hospital less than 2 months before the SHTF. IOW, unless you blame cataract surgery, hospital protocols are irrelevant. Just ignore Andrew Kaufman and Jon Rappoport! They put out real misinformation.

Pitcher's avatar

Is it possible that it could have been just the spike protein encapsulated in LNP and aerial sprayed causing severe allergic reactions in a subset of the population. I was always wondering about this after seeing those videos by Dr. Chetty in South Africa describing the situation there and how he was able to treat most with old generic antihistamines.

Sasha Latypova's avatar

yes, exactly. People like Allen cannot wrap their heads around the fact that poisons exist and biological agents can be synthetically made, and they are still not live organisms and do not leak or walk by themselves.

Mystic William's avatar

Typically poisons have to be administered. IE from a snake bite or from direct poisoning. A virus implies something organically spreads from person to person. In my area, BC, there was no indication anything occurred. Our 2020 mortality rates were exactly what could have been anticipated. When you consider opioid deaths went from 750 to 1750 we had a lighter year for deaths one would have expected. Massive travel - china to Vancouver- including daily flights from Wuhan casts doubt on an organically spreading virus, of whatever origin. England and Wales, same thing. If there were a highly contagious virus spreading Vancouver should have been hit hardest of nearly all cities. I know NO ONE who experienced anything other than a typical

Cold all through 2020. How is that possible? We were in the worst epidemic since Spanish flu and i live in an obvious target, and our deaths were down and I know no person who was sick in any abnormal way. This doesn’t make sense anything was around.

Sasha Latypova's avatar

Original meaning of the word "virus" = poison.

Mystic William's avatar

Someone will eventually be charged criminally. Easy peasy win for the defense. ‘Prove COVID exists.’ The Crown, as we call it here, won’t be able to.

Allen's avatar

Strange you would say "people like _______" when in fact nowhere did I say such a thing. Of course poisons exist. Why are you misrepresenting what I said?

I simply asked you to provide evidence for your statement which you have not done.

Sasha Latypova's avatar

I answered your question several times. I do not owe you any "proofs". If you dislike what I write - why are you here? Write your own brilliant substack, don't bother with mine.

Grazyna Samborska's avatar

"and do not leak or walk by themselves.", but with a little help of the living organisms they can leak...

Sasha Latypova's avatar

yes, like humans carrying aerosol cans for example - those organisms.

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Aria Veritas's avatar

Stefan Lanka, Antoine Béchamp and Ryke Geerd Hamer for the win.

Allen's avatar

You know nothing and have to invent strawmen to distract from that.

Prove me wrong.

Give me exact data from Spring 2020 from these three hospitals in NYC- Elmhurst, NYC- Presbyterian and Maimonides.

Then give me hospital data from that same time frame from each region in Italy. That can be more generalized.

If you cannot do so no need to reply and you can't be taken sriously.

SaHiB's avatar

You're wrong because you didn't get enough remdesivir injected.

Mystic William's avatar

He doesn’t agree with you SaHiB. Why would you wish him dead because of that?

SaHiB's avatar

Because he insisted I go to a hospital for a fake PCR "test", remdesivir, and intubation. Turnabout is fair play.

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Allen's avatar

Pretty amazing to watch how this script gets recycled and people keep falling for it.

John Day MD's avatar

Bobby Jr. is reported to feed his dogs food that contains horse meat!

:-o

Letsrock's avatar

Wouldn't surprise me. At his mother Ethel's house dogs relieved themselves inside the house, wherever and whenever. He has too many other issues for me.

John Day MD's avatar

I was making a joke about new slurs for Bobby Jr.

I think all dog food may contain some horse meat.

It was supposed to be funny.

Sorry to have failed.

Grazyna Samborska's avatar

We shouldn't pay any attention to a family poke, I think.

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

There are definitely racial differences in mortality from Covid (or alleged Covid). I wrote a big article a couple of years ago showing that the mortality rate for UK children was actually 0.000 percent. However, in parsing the comprehensive study that proved this, the authors noted the higher mortality rates among non-white children. One of the points I made in the article is that the mortality rate for health white children is probably less than 6 in 12 million. It was more for non-whites.

For all ages, mortality figures for blacks and hispanics are much higher than for whites.

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/30/for-majority-of-uk-children-covid-mortality-is-0-000/

Sean Lydon's avatar

No such thing as “Covid” beyond seasonal respiratory symptoms every other year known as cold/flu.

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I don't dismiss that theory, which seems to be growing in popularity. However, for a variety of reasons that would take too much space to outline, I think there is/was a new virus that was making many more people than usual "sick" in the "cold and flu season" of 2019-2020. While this virus made many people "sick," it rarely killed anyone. It WAS like the flu or an ILI.

Whether your theory is correct or mine is correct, the bottom-line for both theories is that we did NOT need lockdowns and we did NOT need a dangerous new "vaccine." Probably 98 to 99 percent of the deaths were NOT from any "virus."

Allen's avatar

Noone was getting unusually sick where I lived and that was a few hours outside of NYC WITH constant back and forth from city residents.

People can have all the theories they want but evidence is required.

The evidence of what was happening directly inside the hospitals is voluminous and readily available. Why are people avoiding that?

The answer seems to be because then that evidence blows apart all of these other ridiculous theories such as "lab leak."

"Lab leak" is the classic example of scapegoating a situation that satiates calls for transparency, but has nothing to do with what actually occurred.

Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

The evidence that many more Americans were getting sick in the "cold and flu season" of 2019-2020, is copious and undeniable in my opinion. Maybe not in your town, but certainly my town and state.

Here's an article I wrote about the widespread and severe ILI cases in 2019-2020. If you don't read the article, take a close look at the first graph.

https://billricejr.substack.com/p/influenza-like-illness-probably-tells?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

Yes, flu shots were probably "priming agents" - that's another approach described in bioweapons literature. They also describe poisoning food supply, poisoning pet food, pet vaccines, etc. Many vectors can be deployed to achieve the same result.

Allen's avatar

There was a new quadrivalent flu vaccine rolled out in 2019.

In N Italy there was also a meningcoccal vaccine program that was implemented in 2019/2020. Bogus fear campaign was rolled out to push that.

Both of these will certainly further harm people.

However in both cases there is no hard evidence to point the finger at either of the vaccines (all vaccines are poison) as being causal. We are bombarded with toxins making it hard to point the finger at one agent.

The simple fact though is there was nothing unusual happening until the Covid measures were implemented so it is a moot point as to attempting to find a culprit for a non-existing pandemic.

The media got the plandemic rolling- they just made it up.

Article on N Italy here:

https://21stcenturywire.com/2023/03/07/italy-2020-inside-covids-ground-zero-in-europe/

Mystic William's avatar

Not in my area. We had a mild flu cold season.

SaHiB's avatar

This virus rarely killed anyone if they had peppermint oil or a hot tea kettle (or possibly a corticosteroid inhaler) at hand. It wasn't "flu". Let's not exaggerate!

And why were the lockdowns imposed when it was essentially over? Hospitals needed to catch up? Hang Herbert (Hoover) Spencer and Angela Dunn (Dunce) high!

(And yeah, this is based on the SaHiB n=1 study.)

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

I am not sure re RFK Jr chances. I agree re Malone situation and prospects. I think there are multiple runners up though.

Mystic William's avatar

RFK can only win if the DNC want him. They pick whom they want. He says he is anti-war. They won’t pick him.

John Day MD's avatar

IF Bobby Jr. gets into the race he should win, IF there is not too much vote-rigging.

Those power struggles are happening in private this year, I think.

These invisible negotiations are critical.

Sorry, I can't tell you what I can't see

:-(

Renee Marie's avatar

There are no fair and free elections. Case closed...

John Day MD's avatar

"Fair and free elections" are not what I postulated. The 2016 elections were rigged to elect Clinton, but not-rigged-enough, or maybe some rigging was sabotaged.

I'm sorry if I was not clear enough in my wording. Please look again.

The "case" is not "closed".

Nihilism relieves a person of any responsibility.

You have responsibility to act now.

You are not relieved of this duty.

Renee Marie's avatar

Excuse me? I’m not a dumb sap either. I’m in Commifornia. VOTING IS USELESS. Can you understand that? I’m anything but a nihilist. I love God more than any man. I put my faith in God more than any man.

The case on my end is closed…

until I move, perhaps.

Jerome's avatar

In 2016 and 2020, Bernie Sanders was by far the most popular Democratic candidate in the primaries. He was denied the nomination because the DNC did not want him. This was proven in the 2016 post-eletion lawsuits where the Debbie Wasserman Schultz admitted that the primary votes were not binding and that the Party could select whomever it wanted. These are not elections any more than the Pfizer clinical trials were scientific studies.

Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

However, if polling and votes differ too much "every body knows".

Leonard Cohen - Everybody Knows

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

"Everybody talking to their pockets - Everybody wants a box of chocolates - and a long stem rose. - Everybody knows"

Overcomer's avatar

Daniel 2:21; 4:17, 25, 32,34,35; 5:21

John Day MD's avatar

Please elucidate in words.

:-)

Overcomer's avatar

Kings James version of the bible; Authorized Standard Version; KJV (king James Version. The book of Daniel (In the old testament). Daniel Chapter 2: verse 21; Daniel Chapter 4: verses 17, 25, 32, 34, 35. Also Daniel Chapter 5: verse 21. Hope that helps! hoss

Seafox's avatar

That's a lot of 'if's

ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

I'm still on the Newsom/Big Mike train. Clown world demands it. (folds arms).

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Big Mike checks at least 2 boxes...or maybe 3 boxes.

ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Boxes all the way down

robert stiles's avatar

My all time favorite football player - middle linebacker for the Oregon State Beavers. Linebackers are the big guys that break QB's. Mike made 7 sacks a game. He is the GOAT. lol

Mystic William's avatar

I don’t think MO wants it. She is loaded. Untold 100s of millions stashed. This is not a high energy person. They might want her. But does she want it?

BKBlair's avatar

Oh Newsome is on deck (possibly prior to the 2024 election). Why do you think the news about finding cocaine in the White House blew up?

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Gavin Newsom > A trained associate of the World Economic Forum (WEF) who has violated multiple American Constitutional guarantees and California's civil Constitution, dozens of times. I vote for a noose around his neck. California has been made into a sinking ship...

Brandy's avatar

Noooooo! Just let us hope for a minute. Haha!

I think it’s clear that anyone who would actually make any meaningful reforms wouldn’t be allowed near the presidency. So if RFK Jr wins, I’ll definitely be suspicious. But I’ve been listening to him speak out against the medical mafia and it’s so refreshing.

I’m seeing more threads drawn between Malone, Kirsch, Weinstein etc but I’m not exactly sure I see what ‘the plan’ is… have any links to good Whitney Webb interviews? Or more info on the topics you bring up ?

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Journalist Whitney Webb sits down with Redacted's Clayton Morris for a dense conversation exposing Jeffrey Epstein's deep connections to the world's biggest power players. >>> She's EXPOSING how the deep state mafia controls all of us | Redacted Conversation w/ Whitney Webb >>> December 31, 2022 >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28wkPhMQrY

All involved agencies are still quite operational…

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Brandy's avatar

I agree that these people are brilliant. I’ve been in awe of how everything is so coordinated and how what we experienced through the “pandemic” has been in the making for decades. I guess we just look for clues and try to figure out their next move. Thanks

Pitcher's avatar

Third times a charm for the National Security Admin State. Kill another Kennedy, National meltdown, emergency, EUA of a "temporary" military dictatorship. Musk is hired as CEO of America INC.

ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Why am I laughing?

Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

Would any sane person take over a failed state, hyper indebted, in a hyperinflation? Why? To get lynched?

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Martin - Vetenskapliga partiet's avatar

I believe the oligarchs have already pocketed the gold. Now the crowbars/banks will collapse. You will be left with paper and used crowbars. The only chance to reverse it is to make revolution, arrest and nationalize the monopoly capitalism, and make it state owned. The state must be of the people, as in Switzerland, by the people, through the people, through initiative and referendum. Ballots and people themselves counting, not digital fake voting by the monopoly capitalist platforms!

There is a difference between:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation

Kemper Williams's avatar

You may be right, he gets in office, nothing changes, deep state keeps growing...let’s have some doritos and a little menudo, Sage

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Wouldn't that be something? Now all we need to do is pray that 2024 doesn't bring such crazy weather that FEMA takes over.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Weather weapons are being used now.

BKBlair's avatar

Yep. I think they have been used on us since the 1970s. Jim Lee has loads of information about that. https://climateviewer.com/

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

I've perused the ClimateViewer web site for many years. Jim Lee provides quite a pallet of information, yet yields no legal resolution nor links to Laws which guide environmental complaint. Hundreds of anti-geoengineering web sites have come and gone. The biosphere continues to be poisoned and plundered. >>> US Presidential Candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Dane Wigington: Is Climate Engineering Real?

June 7, 2023 >>> https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/us-presidential-candidate-robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-dane-wigington-is-climate-engineering-real/#comment-2127917

BKBlair's avatar

Have you watched Climate Viewer videos? https://youtu.be/rvhEyhGqOsA

Are you aware that Dane Wigington has used information from Jim Lee's website?

Tom Tunes's avatar

I don’t think it is crazy. Can you elaborate on the Fauci whitewash? There is no index in Real Anthony Fauci so it’s impossible to look that up. He does than Malone, along with many true heroes, in the introduction. The whole idea that RFK, Jr. Could accomplish anything positive by running for President on the Democratic Party, banner, no less, stinks to high Heaven as as a psy op. He has definitely fooled many in the so-called medical (or any other) Freedom Movement. By maneuvering him into office any number of things can be done that would otherwise be met with immediate protest, and real conservatives who are opposed to the State could quickly be silenced, leaving only Kennedy and his cohorts as the voice of reason. Have you seen the work of Miles Mathis on his theory of the faked deaths of The Kennedy’s? Most would consider that a crazy hunch, but when one thinks about it it makes a lot of sense.

Tink's avatar

This makes me so sad to read. I really want to hope for positive change, and believe that the world is not completely evil. I have waited my whole life for this. I am a child of the 60s and still hold those values which the Powers That (Should Not) Be, ripped to shreds.

Tom Tunes's avatar

thank Malone, not ”than Malone”

Ellen W's avatar

You say “Malone ends up being scrubbed clean in Real Anthony Fauci.” How do you figure? I’d say Malone still has quite a layer of doubt around him (he says so as much himself). He continues to be called ‘controlled opposition’ with questions about his work on MRNA. Please explain.

J Galbory's avatar

You are very well informed...(I try but often feel I'm missing something)

I just saw video of chat between Jay Batacharya and R. Malone, where Callahan is shredded en passant....

Robert Malone is very powerful ...pay attention to what he says, and how.

Try to discover whether he's omitting anything, if you're able. Perspicacity required...

I listen twice

Ellen W's avatar

No way will the DNC allow Bobby to get the nomination. Denied the D nomination I hope Bobby runs as a New Democrat.

Best case scenario: Bobby siphons off enough D votes (and lots of I and some R votes) to prevent the D nominee (whoever that ends up being...) to give the win to Trump. Trump, in a move toward solidarity, appoints Bobby Chief Public Health Defender, where he has broad authority to overhaul the entire public health and big Pharma sector. He can then move onto the environment, and all other parts of our public health sector.

If he succeeds he can run in 2028.

Bobby is doing to the Democrat party what Trump did to the Republican. Thats why the D establishment -- and the whole Deep State -- has to stop him.

To those Polly Anna’s who think we need to destroy the D party or destroy Trump: there will always be two parties in this country, with an occasional third-party contender needed to shake things up and clean out the mess. If Bobby can do that to the D party he would be a legitimate hero.

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I'll vote for RFK Jr, if he runs under new party ... lets say "People's Freedom Party" or "Jab is Bad" or "Investigate evil DoD".

While at that, also place Senate and House candidate for this new party - in every state or as many as possible.

This is only if there is real election, NO mail-in or Electronic voting, but old fashion [x] and manual count. If the thing is by Selection or Appointment, then forget about it !!

Then Bobby is the Anointed one, he is in news on daily bases... which is allowed now.

Lone Star's avatar

Not sure he can win if Pharma/DARPA/Media is deployed against him.

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Lone Star's avatar

Well, Al Gore invented the Internet, and little Stevie figured out how to transfer those little quanta of information.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Al Gore did not "invent" the internet by any stretch of reality or fact. The internet began as an association of data centers located within collage and university research facilities. We're talking very early IBM/Fortran based computer language circa early 1950's. Do some research before posting such nonsense.

Lone Star's avatar

My comment was a sarcastic reference to Al Gore’s claim that he invented the internet. Do some checking of your concrete thinking before you berate other people’s comments.

Lone Star's avatar

GTVH. And, thus, a new acronym is forged.

Lee Muller's avatar

Great examples. Is this why we don't see Covid-19 positive cases/deaths or vax adverse events data by race and Hispanic-origin, even when vital statistics of births and deaths, disability and census data are commonly provided by race and ethnicity?

Do I hear FOIA?

Psalms91's avatar

You are a brave individual Lee keep that up, take no prisoners.

Allen's avatar

The entire conversation is absurd as there is no 'lab leak' nor any unique viral pathogen that caused a pandemic. Have we reached peak 'lab leak' insanity yet?

Kennedy's fundamental assertions on 'all things pandemic', regardless of this latest nonsense, are flat wrong and he only gets a pass on this because he is RFK.

We know exactly what happened, where it happened and how it happened. It is inexcusable that RFK and others are not going straight to the source on this matter.

In the US half of the excess all-cause mortality from April 2020 mortality event came from the Tri-State area, and was largely inpatient, which was more than double that of the combined hospice/long-term care facilities.

There was no pathogen that spun around the globe and killed millions of people- suggesting there was is a distraction from reviewing what did kill people and provides cover for what actually happened.

When you pretend that SARS-CoV-2 was uniquely powerful, you advance fear-driven, unsubstantiated claims about what’s even possible.

"Virus from Wuhan" keeps people distracted from looking back at the data and contemporaneous documents/events to consider what actually occurred.

If RFK wants to play Columbo and do so seriously he needs to go to the scene of the crimes- start with obtaining the records from Elmhurst, Maimonides and NYC-Presbyterian hospitals.

What would be discovered is that it was mass murder via vents, propofol, midazolam, morphine, neglect, DNR's etc.

And then go to NYC EMT records to see how many at-homes deaths occurred in April 2020 due to untreated cardiac arrest, deaths which were coded as U07.1 (COVID-19).

Sasha Latypova's avatar

Calm down. Bio-chemical poisons exist and can be deployed. They don't leak, they get deployed. Covid-19 was a deployed poison (probably multiple poisons).

John Day MD's avatar

Accidental "leak" such as May 2019 from Ft. Detrick, could well have been followed by multiple worldwide "deployments" to 1) hide the trail and 2) do some damage, like to Iran, during the national mournings for General Soleimani, drone-assassinated on 1/3/2020, a known date, which could be planned for.

Iran got COVID bad in that week of mourning. SARS CoV-2 is a bioweapon. It can be deployed on crowds. It exists in variants. Omicron was certainly a new release, too distantly related to all prior strains to have evolved in real time outside a lab. It diverges genetically no later than early 2018.

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No, I didn't see that. Hand sanitizer?

Allen's avatar

I'm perfectly calm.

Bio-chemical weapons are substantially different than what we are talking about here and different than what has been passed off as 'lab leak'- you know this.

"Covid-19 was a deployed poison (probably multiple poisons)."

Where is your evidence for this? Can you present that?

Further if such a weapon were "deployed" how come it had no impact?

If it did have an impact can you cite exactly what those impacts were and exactly where they happened?

Sasha Latypova's avatar

"Bio-chemical weapons are substantially different than what we are talking about here and different than what has been passed off as 'lab leak'- you know this."

I don't know what your definition of bio-chemical weapons and why do you think it is different than, for example, a naturally grown toxin, a chemical poison, nerve gas, enzyme inhibitor, synthetic biologic, peptide, or combinations of them. All of them can be bio-chemical weapons.

"Covid-19 was a deployed poison (probably multiple poisons)."

Where is your evidence for this? Can you present that?"

People got sick with novel symptoms. I experience it myself. Twice: during first wave - skin poisoning (same as later showed up reported as vax injury, but this was before vaxxes were released and I was ever vaxxed). Second time both me and my husband, simultaneous, very rapid onset of symptoms consistent with poisoning. Dennis Rancourt paper showed that it was not consistent with seasonal respiratory patterns. But the pattern is very consistent with application of poisoning agents in select geographic locations.

"Further if such a weapon were "deployed" how come it had no impact?"

It did. People got sick. With novel symptoms, consistent with neurological/skin/gastro poisoning.

Allen's avatar

I just now saw this- I assume you are responding to my questions.

Again you haven't shown any evidence for any of your assertions.

"People got sick" is simply not evidence. Your personal anecdote is not evidence.

People get sick with "novel symptoms all the time- from time immemorial based on an entire array of circumstances. This tells us nothing.

Your 'interpretation' of Rancourt's evidence is in direct conflict with his actual evidence and in fact directly oppositioinal to what he has stated on dozens of occasions.

Rancourt has NEVER said anything said anything about these patterns being consistent with application of poisoning agents and has in fact stated over and over that what we witnessed was a DIRECT result of the Covid "measures", both hospital protocols and lockdown policies as well as pre-existing health and social factors.

Based on what you have said here Sasha anyone can say anything and then develop a hypothesis around it. All well and good but that doesn't mean it to be true.

Sasha Latypova's avatar

"This tells us nothing".

Cool. Who forces you to read my substack?

Go argue with Alec, he is waiting for your brilliant insights. Bye.

Allen's avatar

I'm not arguing with you I'm simply asking for evidence of your claims.

Let's face it Sasha you don't have any and you know this which is why you respond so brusquely.

If you are looking for an echo chamber that will be the end result. That is not the way people seeking the truth operate- they are fine and in fact relish having their assumptions challenged and learning more from what others have to present.

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

Some colleagues in Australia reported several incidents - grayish dust sprayed during protests, gelatin-like substance on trees, other strange "stuff" flying around, dead insects appearing all over roofs (Sydney).

Elaine Seinfeld's avatar

look up Dr Lee Merritt at MEDICAL REBEL. She tracked the data and showed the "infection" rate followed MAJOR HIGHWAY SYSTEMS in the US

Allen's avatar

I've seen her work multiple times.

How are those infection rates determined? Fraudulent PCR.

Her work is like so many others is without evidence, sensationalized and full of conflations.

Covid is fiction- all of it.

Sasha Latypova's avatar

I never used any covid tests of any kind. Clinical symptoms determine the poisoning with novel chemical-biological agents.

Paul Vonharnish's avatar

Yes. Absolutely. The lab "leak" theory is intentional diversion. These poisons and toxins were deployed. Not leaked.

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

I could not care less about phylogenic trees because they are irrelevant to synthetic poisons.

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Sasha Latypova's avatar

I am not sure what you mean here. There are reference libraries of poisons and methods to make them in labs. Additional methods for delivery vehicles. There is no evolution of poison in a lab, hence no trees needed. and I frankly do not think there is evolution as it is described by Darwin, but that's a different story.

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Elaine Seinfeld's avatar

prove there is a natural infectious virus ISOLATED ALONE...not in a soup of cow pus and gatorade

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Good points. The whole lab leak/ no lab leak thing is quite exhausting. Both sides make cogent arguments but I tend to believe, if the gov't is acknowledging something, it's probably a psy-op. But Kennedy does his homework & does listen to all sides as far as I can tell, so I don't easily dismiss what he says. Add to that the work of Francis Boyle. Regardless, fear seems to be the driving factor. Kennedy has said chronic illnesses are much more of a threat than Infectious ones.

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lab leak/no leak is a false binary. It was a systematic deployment of poisoning agent(s).

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It is difficult to explain to most even at the top of your lungs not discouraging you stop.

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please argue with Allen. You both need it.

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Dennis Rancour't paper. Based on all cause mortality patterns.

I already advised you to argue with Allen, since I don't care to argue with you, nor do I owe you any "proofs". If you dislike what you read here, don't read it. Write your own Substack. Good day.

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With all due respect this is patently false.

"But Kennedy does his homework & does listen to all sides..."

Kennedy has not done his homework on what happened in NYC and N Italy and has admitted publicly he hasn't looked into this YET tosses out ridiculouls theories that have been disproven. If he weren't RFK no one would take him seriously on this specific matter.

Many people have brought this to his attention and yet he plows on with the insane lab leak rubbish as he is personally invested in this idea.

The number of hoops one has to jump through to lend credibility to this lab leak insanity is daunting.

Boyle has been banging on this drum for years, as have others, yet has never provided a shred of evidence for the viability of the weapons he goes on about. Nor has anyone else.

People love to live in movies and have a need for drama. This lab leak insanity has got stop it is very destructive. The people who were killed directly by hospital protocols will never gain justice as long as the likes of RFK keep on with this madness.

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Bobby DOES "do his homework" and people like Meryl Nass MD (and others) help research that homework for him. Bobby Jr. is a stickler for factual evidence in court.

His mind is always in court. Try living like that.

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I don't think you read my comment carefully. I said that RFK did not do his homework on NYC and N Italy- I was specific and it is an accurate comment.

Should RFK or anyone get a free pass just because they have reached celebrity status? We know that they do.

Worship of leaders is a technique of indoctrination that goes back to the crazed George Washington cult of the 18th century and to the Reagan cult, to the truly lunatic Obama Hopium cult, up to the present day deranged Trump cult.

Here he is in an interview w/Denis Rancourt at 8:54 mark:

RFK: "Okay, so let me push back on you. Yeah. You know, I think most people are going to recommend here, which is that the reason that you had these huge number of deaths in Paris and New York and for example, in northern Italy, which you did not mention in Tuscany, the same time as earlier, actually, than the spikes that I was mentioning. I'd love to hear your explanation for that. Because that seemed to be I mean, that's where we all got the idea that this virus was galloping through and killing lots and lots of people. And they didn't have remdesivir in Italy at that time, so something was killing people."

Note that Kennedy asserts, before even getting to his hypothesis, that most people will or should believe what he is going to say. Fairly presumptuous at best but in fact is a technique of managing public opinion. He is pre-invalidating any hypothesis that counters his coming assertion.

He mentions this huge number of deaths in N Italy (and NYC) but does not go into any details whatsoever on how those deaths occurred. This has been documented at length but somehow this escapes him. The details of these deaths are not a matter of conjecture; they are supported by all manner of data and evidence.

Tuscany is not in N Italy it is in Central Italy. He is either geographically illiterate or hasn't looked at the data for Tuscany or both. There were no excess deaths in Tuscany during this time nor even any notable number of "cases" even if you accept the narrative that there is such a thing as Covid and PCR is legit. I have this data for all regions in Italy.

Later in the interview Kennedy admits point blank that he has not looked at the data from Italy very closely yet here he is pontificating on this AND saying most people will agree with him on a point he openly admits he hasn't looked into.

@31:56 mark of the interview:

RFK: "My impression I don't know much about Italy either than the news reports and having been over there and people having the impression..."

RFK admits he doesn't know much about what happened in Italy but just 23 minutes earlier he used Italy as a lynchpin for his "hypothesis."

His remark about remdesivir is irrelevant. In Spring 2020 remdesivir was not being used anywhere at least not in significant quantity- there is evidence of it being "trialed" at that time. Remdesivir was widely used later in 2020 after "approval."

Kennedy is attempting to say that issues within the hospital and faulty protocol were not the problem by throwing out the remdesivir canard when in fact that was exactly the biggest factor via vents, propofol, midazolam, morphine, DNR's and on and on...his omission here illustrates further that he does not know what happened or is obfuscating the issues for other reasons.

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Also don't forget that most physicians will NOT give antibiotics for a presumed viral only respiratory infection, when it has been well argued that a secondary bacterial co-infection is nearly always the main culprit.

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In reality most clinicians will prescribe azithromycin if there is any suspicion of or risk of secondary bacterial infection these days. It's a good choice for several reasons, as is doxycycline, both "macrolide" antibiotics that played an important role in my prescribing for outpatient COVID, before I was fired for vaccine refusal in October 2021.

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Quoth Allen: "I said that RFK did not do his homework on NYC and N Italy- I was specific and it is an accurate comment."

A: I have read your reply in full. There were a lot of things going on in Italy, Tuscany largely, where there is a lot of Chinese commerce, in fall 2019, so it had a "head start". This is not part of the official narrative. Strains were shared across regions, and as I recall from the time the US west coast got more Chinese strains, whereas NYC got more Italian/EU strains.

There is a whole lot of "homework" to do. I think you might be fixating on some esoteric details, rather than a broader presentation to an electorate which has been less attentive to detail than you and I have.

I think anybody, coming from any informational background will find this analysis of SARS CoV-2 genetics over time, going back to early 2018, very informative and constructive.

https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/11/15/chinas-ccp-concealed-sars-cov-2-presence-in-china-as-far-back-as-march-2018/

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Boo! You can claim I'm particularly vulnerable to psychosomatic effects that could choke me to death, as well as giving me a sore throat, headache, mild fever, and then malaise. I ain't buying it! And I don't much care whether the virus you claim I imagine came from Wuhan, Chapel Hill, Uke Rain, or somewhence else. Why was ivermectin not recommended (Elon Muskox still has me banned for asserting onchocerciasis is a much greater threat to humans than to horses and cows, despite pretending to review my appeal), and hydroxychloroquine made almost totally unavailable? Herbert (Hoover) Spencer locked us down, way longer than the promised 15 days, and mailed out cloth (no, not H95) masks, but banned ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. He and Angela Dunce didn't even recommend vitamins C and D and zinc and ionophores. I got over the malaise, only to find everything closed over imaginary fear-mongering. The pandemic ended in April 2020. That strain the shots targeted was then extinct, though variants, remdesivir and ventilator blowout deaths, and military countermeasure shots followed.

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Thank you, SaHiB. Great summation!

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That is a very intriguing theory!

Allen's avatar

It's not a theory- it is based on thousands of hours of research on hard evidence and data.

RFK has not done this research no matter anyone's opinions about him personally or politically.

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It Wasn't a Lab Leak, it Was Intentional >>> December 12, 2022 >>> Spartacus

Excerpt: “The notion that a virus leaked from a lab, and then, massive political macrostructures clicked into place all over the globe to suppress people’s fundamental freedoms, overnight, is an absurdity. Every part of this required years of deliberate planning and malice aforethought.”

https://iceni.substack.com/p/it-wasnt-a-lab-leak-it-was-intentional

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There is not now nor has there ever been an epidemiological or viral emergency event of any sort anywhere in the world in the year 2020. The manufactured perception that there was such an event is an artifact of mass media manipulation, behavioral conditioning techniques and social engineering. All of this has been made possible through institutional programming and accelerated media messaging disallowing basic cognitive processes and eliminating critical thinking possibilities.

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Well Allen... I'd like to agree, but we'll never know actual case mortality. I would agree that the entire "operation" was massaged. >

The corona virus isn't the problem. >>> From The Coronavirus COVID-19 Pandemic: The Real Danger is "Agenda ID2020" - Global ResearchGlobal Research >>>

“What is the infamous ID2020? It is an alliance of public-private partners, including UN agencies and civil society. It’s an electronic ID program that uses generalized vaccination as a platform for digital identity.” >>> https://www.globalresearch.ca/coronavirus-causes-effects-real-danger-agenda-id2020/5706153

Excerpted from: The WEF and the Pandemic >>> 'the WEF was, together with the Gates Foundation, a sponsor of the prescient “Event 201” coronavirus pandemic simulation exercise, held in New York City on October 18, 2019 – the same day as the opening of the Wuhan Military World Games, seen by some as a possible “ground zero” of the global pandemic.' Link: https://swprs.org/the-wef-and-the-pandemic/

Also see: https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/tabletop-exercises/event-201-pandemic-tabletop-exercise

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We do know case mortality.

For example: Most of the staggering “wave 1” NYC mortality increase among ages 20-69 occurred in hospitals, where there were no 3rd-party witnesses.

Of that 342% ACM increase in Weeks 12-22 from 2019 to 2020 most was in hopsitals.

What was 2nd BY FAR? Most people think it was nursing homes- it wasn't. It was at-home deaths that were caused almost exclusively by cardiac arrest due to people not seeking treatment as they were told to stay at home and/or were too scared to go to hosptial for treatment due to terror campaign

~100% of those “extra” hospital and at-home deaths have covid on the death certificate.

No virus of any sort- no biowepaon- no lab leak anything or release of anything or targeted spread of anything. These are stories.

Hospital protocols killed these people along with administrative diktats and media hysteria.

No need to invent stories- we know exactly what happened.

MarshaLouise's avatar

Thanks, Allen.

Thinking you’re 95% right. What about the redacted/unredacted email wherein Fauci admits to funding gain-of-function?

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Funding of what they call GoF is very real as is funding of any number of military applications that are baseless.

Patents are also very real and prove absolutely nothing. If you have $550 you can apply for one.

It's just amazing that people don't require any evidence for these things especially if one of their heroes makes a claim.

Again the problem here is that it puts everyone on a wild goose chance while the perps get off the hook.

Instead of the real crimes being front and center we get these kooky 'lab leak' postulations which BTW are officially approved and change in form from one month to the next.

"Lab leak" was floated as early as Feb. 2020- it's a fear-based narrative.

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Are you following John Boudoins work on Massachusetts? JJ COUEY?

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Familiar with both.

Have spoken to John several times.

Couey's theory (thuogh it seems he has backed off it a bit) of viral clone and the targeted aerosolized transmission has zero evidence behind it.

People have been Hollywoodized.

There is no more reason to be afraid of these invisible boogeymen than Big Foot.

The real threats are the policies, mandates, socioeconomic transformations, and toxic “treatments” the ruling class (and its agents) continue to implement/push using them as a pretext and the many real ways they are poisoning us - physically and psychologically - for which the fictional germ narrative serves to distract from and cover up.

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When Covid first started, cleaning supplies were in short supply. All of a sudden, products appeared and EVERYTHING was being wiped down continuously. What a great way to introduce various chemical agents and blame it on Covid.

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I do not recall any scarcity of cleaning supplies before Covid. There was a scarcity created by people rushing to purchase extra supplies after fears of supply chains breaking down due to shut downs.

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Lone Star's avatar

And hand sanitizer did not work on Covid.

Kathleen Williams's avatar

RFK will learn this tme-- you must never, ever mention Jews in any context except their exodus. He's already got two strikes.

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And both instances completely benign and then ferociously taken out of context. 3 strikes and he’s out.

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This idea of a virus being ethnically targeted is not so crazy and it isn't the first time that this has been done by the eugenicists who want to control the population -- both size and ethnic make-up. Read the Jaffe memo from 1969 -- a very enlightening paper on how best to do this without being "noticed" as something "intentional." They have plans! Lots of plans! This is just the beginning.

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I wish I knew exactly who is behind these plans. We know who has the money and access but who is pushing hardest to make this happen?!

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I don't believe it's any single individual but rather a "cartel" of individuals who've been pushing to destroy humanity for a very long time -- since the late 1800s in fact. There are the eugenicists who've always wanted to be in control of the population and decide who can live and have children, and who must be eliminated. There are groups such as the Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the WEF, the UN, Central bankers, and many others who want control over the world. The three-pronged program includes 1) the patented virus and the patented mRNA "vaccine" - designed and developed by the same individuals; 2) the climate change cartel whose goal is also to eliminate millions from the world through the elimination of agriculture methods that have fed the world for decades in the name of controlling the climate - 13 countries including the U.S. have signed on to this effort to eliminate all meat and diary products, such as the Netherlands is currently attempting to do; 3) the transgender egregore whose aim is to separate children from their parents and to neuter children so that the population can be reduced. Three methods with the same goal: depopulation of the world to a level -- 500,000,000 -- that is controllable by the power elites.

This will happen unless we who know push back against this plan and stand up to them. Keep standing strong!

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This is an excellent synopsis of the cabal and its objectives. Thank you, Clare, for taking the tIme to elucidate so clearly what we all need to understand and fight against. Must SAVE your helpful response.

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Reference please on the Jaffe memo!

Clare Goldsberry's avatar

I Googled it - Jaffe Memo March 11, 1969 and it came up. Or email me and I will send it to you from my file - clarewrite47@gmail.com

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Designer poisons. These people have been poisoning for a long time. The Japanese information is interesting. 18 months in the States

And they are Americanized. Rumor has it the company’s like Ancestry dot com are not to be trusted.

Maybe they could design poisons that only target sociopaths and psychopaths and the 1% of incest

People that assume a godly status?

Maybe?

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Beautiful painting too 🌷

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These creations are proving to be way more effective as weapons that target certain dietary and lifestyle patterns (i.e highly engineered processed food, highly vaccinated children, chronic subclinical dehyrdation and sleep deprivation, sedentary, indoor dwellers).

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Under God, Sasha was the one to 'red-pill' RFK Jr. Watched it happen and it wasn't something he enjoyed, at first. Breaking the wall around the soul is a rather painful; if enlightening experience and it can be considered a blessing as many people do believe RFK Jr. an authentically good man capable of reaching many to pay the truth forward to any having any courage at all having ears to hear as Jesus said.

RFK Jr. will be attacked by many and for varied pretexts. The wise will disavow the cackling, squawking and screeching of the lunatic demons wearing human being suits lost in denial literally diagnosable among the range of Axis II Personality Disorders.

The very sad issue at hand is the fact of his own family remaining among the lost; or so it appears. Factually, behind closed doors; it's impossible to imagine the whole family mentally hampered and spiritually deterred by wrong and treasonous thinking to be walking among the Fascistic Hoard out of 'The City of London'.

Confronting evil is NOT for the faint of heart; it's risky. Yet, when we don't confront evil and eradicate it from our world...It digs-in, takes more ground in all aspects of life; and soon nothing of good or God remains WHICH EQUATES TO 'OPEN SEASON' ON THOSE OF GOD AND GOOD WITH ALL EVILS MOST PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE IN THEIR WORST NIGHTMARES.

The answer; therefore is prayer, fasting, sacrifice and doing penance in reparation for the wrath of God with the people's refusal in accepting his mercy and blessing of faith necessary to stand in 'Courage of Conviction' to not only speak and listen to learn the TRUTH...BUT, TO GET UP AND BE WILLING TO FIGHT IT AS DAVID AND ALL GOD'S WARRIORS DID.

It is TRUE God never gives us more than we can handle. THE KEY IS TO HANDLE IT, EVIL, WHEN IT COMES. When it isn't handled...WE MOST CERTAINLY LEARN THE DEVIL IS MOST WILLING TO GIVE US MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE.

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About RFK Jr, when he spoke with Joe Rogan recently, he still pushed the idea of global warming as being almost evident. Some things that need further exploration are too firmly grounded in his belief.

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Yes, you're correct to report him to claim adherence to the old 'Global Warming' CON from decades ago preceding 'Global Cooling' and the current 'Climate Change Cult's' SCAM more threatening than the old con since the young are going for the detritus 'Hook, Line and Sinker'. But then again, they must be forgiven for their IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY as we can expect this from these kids having no parents to teach them and supervise and were thus raised by an education system bent on indoctrination/brainwashing. We older people were too astute to go for the Establishment Ruler's B.S. Here's a segment coming from another Substack today...

REMARKABLE 15 Min. Explosion of Information ALL NEED TO KNOW AND to Never Forget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEkgZtu_Q2Q

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Letsrock's avatar

He has leftist Hollyweird links.👎

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Sasha,

I am a Member of the US Naval Institute, and they published this article in 2021:

Synthetic Bioweapons Are Coming

Emerging and Disruptive Technology Essay Contest–First Prize

Sponsored by MITRE

Gene-editing advances pose a serious threat.

By Michael Knutzen

June 2021 Proceedings Vol. 147/6/1,420

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2021/june/synthetic-bioweapons-are-coming

I am a #Kennedy24 supporter as I have an Active Duty son on deployment now, and this stuff is getting...

Peace and #FlyNavy

Sasha Latypova's avatar

Thank you, and praying for your son's safety.

Michael's avatar

Sasha, I absolutely love your “‘progressive’ media goo” label. I think that just about says it all. ✨🙌✨

Susan Hojdik's avatar

Always Thought those genealogy tests were a very Bad idea! Most folks don’t read the fine print, anyway! Interesting about the Jewish pop mentioned . Could it be that only certain ones Within that group are safer? Say, as a deniability of some sort. In other words sacrifice some to cover for those in the know? Just a thought:/

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If you’re giving your DNA to a stranger, you aren’t playing with a full deck.

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Not on topic (which is a good one!) but I thought some readers might be interested in this:

The “science mafia’s” false narrative on virus origination is starting to crumble … but everyone is STILL ignoring the mountain of evidence that shows this virus was already spreading around the world by late 2019. This was the evidence that HAD to be concealed to protect lockdowns and the roll-out of the mRNA “vaccines.”

https://billricejr.substack.com/p/fauci-busted-for-pushing-bogus-virus?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

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In the movie Vaxxed, didn't the whistleblower, Mr. Thompson, who was a senior scientist at the CDC, state that the MMR vaccine, when researched, showed an increase of like 40% adverse reaction - autism - in black boys if given before their 2nd birthday? The evidence against Black boys was so powerful the scientists were forced to burn their files and research on it....and never speak about it.

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''no government in the world would do such as thing as to lie, hide those programs in academia, “public health”, “ecological research”, outsource them to foreign contractors (like Wuhan) and lavishly fund them for decades.''

Imho, human was the target.